Griff 23 Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Alex from Nauticam UK told me the G7 project has been abandoned by Nauticam because it would have not been compatible with the current set of ports I wonder if there will be a GX8 housing How can it not be compatible with the ports as the ports are dependent on the lens used which are Panasonic and Olympus lenses widely used on many different Nauticam housings? I wonder if it is too much trouble to machine a brand new design rather than adapt a current one ie OMD EM5 MK 2 being a reworked EM5 housing? Edited September 1, 2015 by Griff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted September 1, 2015 I have no specific details or could have to do with the body shape Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griff 23 Posted September 1, 2015 Thought it might be the depth of the grip close to the lens opening or similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor^ 0 Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I have no specific details or could have to do with the body shape It appears to be true Apparently the camera is too big and interferes with the standard N85 housing opening Can't understand how they are unable to work around it... I would imagine there will be a lot of people wanting that housing, me being one of them. Edited September 2, 2015 by Raptor^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted September 2, 2015 Not really the G7 other than 4K is an average camera with image quality that is not great and for underwater a slow flash sync speed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan 48 Posted September 2, 2015 G7 has indeed been cancelled. The issue, as speculated here, is the front - back depth of the hand grip. The thick grip would have moved the N85 Port mount forward, affecting compatibility with all of the micro four thirds lenses supported, and necessitating a port system dedicated to the G7 housing. GX8 is no problem, and that high priority design is moving forward. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted September 4, 2015 G7 has indeed been cancelled. The issue, as speculated here, is the front - back depth of the hand grip. The thick grip would have moved the N85 Port mount forward, affecting compatibility with all of the micro four thirds lenses supported, and necessitating a port system dedicated to the G7 housing. GX8 is no problem, and that high priority design is moving forward. Ryan Do you know the eta for the gx8 housing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thetrickster 328 Posted September 14, 2015 So, after have a look at the GX8. It appears its not all its cracked up to be in terms of Video and 'Dual-IS' The Dual-IS is great (with Panasonic lenses) for still photography and works wonders, this uses the OIS for the lens, and also sensor shifting technology a bit like the Olympus 5-axis IBIS However for video, its a bit of a lame duck... None of the in-body stabilisation works with 4K video, so you will have to rely on the Mega-OIS from the Panasonic lenses. Alas the 7-14mm doesn't have that either If you use the camera in 1080p mode, you gain access to the 'E-Stablisation' option, this however isn't the sensor shifting, its the older type of using the full feed from the sensor and cropping it down to 1080, based on camera movement, so its doing calculations on the movement and cropping/modifying. Not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted September 14, 2015 So its electronic stabiliser only. To be honest the same happens with Sony as well in 4k only lens shift stabiliser works. Considering that lens shift only covers tilt and pan am not sure it is such a big deal that the 7-14mm is not stabilised?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted September 26, 2015 Housing just announced few days ago http://www.nauticamusa.com/news/2015/9/24/announcing-housing-for-panasonic-gx8 It's not much bigger than the GX7 except higher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Delete Edited September 26, 2015 by Interceptor121 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timccr 11 Posted September 26, 2015 Really, really looking forward to some underwater RAW samples of the GX8 and also some uncompressed 14 bit RAW Sony samples to compare them to. That's a hint Nauticam! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted October 23, 2015 Dxomark sensor rating puts the GX8 on top of micro four third segment however the improvement on the GH4 is minimal http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-GX8-Review-Top-ranking-Four-Thirds-sensor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griff 23 Posted November 5, 2015 Any one used this underwater yet? Has it got the better manual white balance from the LX100? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted November 5, 2015 lX100 custom white balance is very good with warmer colours than other Panasonic. I opted out the GX8 as for stills is not much of an improvement on the Gx7 and decided to invest in a Sony for video Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tamas970 12 Posted November 12, 2015 When it comes to 4K the 3 Panasonic mirrorless GH4, G7 and GX8 are pretty similar looking at sample footage. The G7 does not have external connectivity the other two do, with the new GH4R there will be a professional v-log option so the 3 cameras are clearly set in the various boxes: G7: entry level 4K for people that use footage as it GX8: almost professional option with HDMI output GH4R: professional option with v-log and HDMI output The GH5 will most likely feature the hybrid os in 1080p that currently is only on the GX8 If you don't grade your footage the G7 should be ok. The G7 does have a few buttons more than the OMD-EM10 and is bigger I bet the housing price will be somewhere between the EM10 and the EM5 without handles 4k from the GX8 is less than convincing. We need full sensor readout like in the RX100 mk4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted November 12, 2015 4k from the GX8 is less than convincing. We need full sensor readout like in the RX100 mk4. The RX100 Mark IV has higher resolution than the GH4 actually and of the LX100 too. The only issue with it is macro where the lens is too short. I have the Panasonic GX7 (that is my favourite for still images) and the Sony RX100 Mark IV for 4K video to get in the water soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicool 26 Posted December 1, 2015 See this nice article from reef photo about gx8: http://reefphoto.com/kb.php?id=94 Though i am not sure if it sells more the gx8 camera or the nauticam's wet lenses system, which seems quite interesting. I'd be curious to know how it compares vs dedicated lenses and ports/domes (in terms of IQ and AF speed) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted December 1, 2015 I received that email too. I have done a comparison of the WWL-1 versus 8mm fisheye and I can draw a comparison with the 7-14mm. The WWL-1 is a semifisheye so it is not truly circular and is not rectilinear it does however focus on the dome. The quality depends on the lens you use behind and the power zoom is not the best lens surely for stills. I opted out the gx8 as the IQ is not far off the GX7 and there are issues with 4K video plus the flash is sold as separate part ultimately making it too complicated. The WWL-1 is very heavy and not really changeable in water. Nauticam are working at a buoyancy collar that should solve that problem too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thetrickster 328 Posted December 2, 2015 Would love to see a 7-14mm vs WWL-1 comparison. If its close, would save a load of luggage and space! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr.rob 2 Posted December 2, 2015 Very interesting. I am wondering how the AF on the GX8 would compare to a top-notch DSLR, say for example the Canon 7D Mii. I am growing increasingly frustrated by the slow AF of my current rig (Canon EOS M) and really want to get whatever is the best AF available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted December 2, 2015 Would love to see a 7-14mm vs WWL-1 comparison. If its close, would save a load of luggage and space! No space saving compared to the 6" nauticam port and actually the WWL-1 weights more than lens and port Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thetrickster 328 Posted December 2, 2015 No space saving compared to the 6" nauticam port and actually the WWL-1 weights more than lens and port I was thinking 1x WWL 1x 29mm Port Vs 1x 160mm / 170mm Dome 1x 35mm Port - And you get flexibility of the dive to remove the WWL and replace with the CMC (and back), where at the moment if you go wide angle you are stuck with it for that dive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interceptor121 713 Posted December 2, 2015 The WWL-1 is really heavy in water and outside and doesn't have a lens holder for float arm. Plus the CMC has a very short focal length to be useful for videos. I think the combination is more useful for still images currently until they release a float collar for the WWL the in water removal is a bit theoretical Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
