newboy 1 Posted August 13, 2018 Both, Oskar had announced in may that they were working on a new flash, to be announced in July-August, hence our questions Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk The killer will be losing my strobes when the firmware work is done. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unregistered 1 Posted August 23, 2018 Is there a way to use the Retra strobes with the Sony A7 III in a Nauticam housing and get TTL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Kline 130 Posted August 23, 2018 Is there a way to use the Retra strobes with the Sony A7 III in a Nauticam housing and get TTL? Yes, but your housing must be configured for fiber optics. With wires there is only basic old-fashioned flash synch which is what I am using with my Seacams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unregistered 1 Posted August 23, 2018 Yes, but your housing must be configured for fiber optics. With wires there is only basic old-fashioned flash synch which is what I am using with my Seacams. Excellent! Fibre optic it is. Which trigger is capable of TTL between the Sony and Retras? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellhole 16 Posted August 24, 2018 Explain this ttl and nauticam and retra strobe again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Kline 130 Posted August 24, 2018 See this page: https://www.retra-uwt.com/pages/retra-flash Note this towards the bottom of the bullet points: Inon and Sea&Sea dual compatible optical connector Evidently these connectors work but I have zero experience with them. I prefer the simplicity of wires. However, wired synch cables will eventually fail but there is a lot of variability as to how long they last in my experience. I have or had some rather old cords that worked last time I used them - they are from the 80's! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellhole 16 Posted August 24, 2018 See this page: https://www.retra-uwt.com/pages/retra-flash Note this towards the bottom of the bullet points: Inon and Sea&Sea dual compatible optical connector Evidently these connectors work but I have zero experience with them. I prefer the simplicity of wires. However, wired synch cables will eventually fail but there is a lot of variability as to how long they last in my experience. I have or had some rather old cords that worked last time I used them - they are from the 80's! So how does the fiber optic makes the ttl work? We put the fiber optics cable on the housing. Then the other end we put it on the strobe. That's it? We have ttl?? No need a convertor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Kline 130 Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) So how does the fiber optic makes the ttl work? We put the fiber optics cable on the housing. Then the other end we put it on the strobe. That's it? We have ttl?? No need a convertor? Retra has electronics in the strobe to do the TTL. Contact Retra for the details as there is a firmware updates in progress that I suspect pertains to TTL. Also see earlier posts in this thread as a few folks have already used TTL and they mention hardware used. Edited August 24, 2018 by Tom_Kline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unregistered 1 Posted August 24, 2018 Retra has electronics in the strobe to do the TTL. Contact Retra for the details as there is a firmware updates in progress that I suspect pertains to TTL. Also see earlier posts in this thread as a few folks have already used TTL and they mention hardware used. Thanks Tom! Was more curious about the actual hot shoe trigger unit. I know the Nauticam one specifically does not support TTL. Was wondering if anyone has used any other hardware specifically on a Sony mirrorless camera that allows for TTL through fiber optics! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barmaglot 177 Posted August 24, 2018 I believe TRT Electronics' TURTLE triggers support TTL over fiber optics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oskar@RetraUWT 51 Posted August 29, 2018 Hi Some of you were asking about the progress on the new strobe and we have some news: https://www.retra-uwt.com/blogs/news Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex_Mustard 0 Posted August 29, 2018 This caught my eye: “two exciting new features exclusively for the new Retra Flash”. I guess you will tell us in November. Alex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azurreal 3 Posted August 30, 2018 I hope that TTL improvements will be compatible with the Nauticam TTL converter ! Can't wait to have the full specs in november Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walt Stearns 50 Posted September 2, 2018 Having recently read Retra’s post on a “new” Retra Flash coming in 2019, and that it will be “accompanied by a new battery compartment door, designed to improve the handling and reduce the chance of flooding the battery compartment.” Having previously owned a pair of Retra, to which one of them suffered water intrusion in the battery compartment during the second week the strobe had ever been in use I would be most interested to see what exactly this redesign will feature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balage_diver 4 Posted September 10, 2018 I believe TRT Electronics' TURTLE triggers support TTL over fiber optics.s Hi There. If we get a pair of Retra we implement the Turtle just in few days. Balazs (TRT-Electronics) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oskar@RetraUWT 51 Posted September 11, 2018 Once the firmware update for the current Retra Flash is available (expected at the end of the year) TTL converters will likely work with existing settings for currently supported strobes. Until then we do not recommend making any changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unregistered 1 Posted September 12, 2018 Hi There. If we get a pair of Retra we implement the Turtle just in few days. Balazs (TRT-Electronics) Will existing units be able to be flashed with an update? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balage_diver 4 Posted September 13, 2018 Will existing units be able to be flashed with an update? Yes , please write me for details to info@trt-electronics.com. Thank you. Balazs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Architeuthis 102 Posted November 19, 2018 Hi, I just had a look at the specs. of the future flashes: https://www.retra-uwt.com/pages/retra-flash One spec. I find very interesting: It is stated that they will be HSS ready (=faster shutter than sync. speed is possible).I do not own HSS flash, so aplogize for my ignorance, but how will the HSS mode be triggered (from normal on-camera flash (e.g.: OMD cameras)? Wolfgang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guyharrisonphoto 21 Posted November 19, 2018 Interested in the above question as well. Also, are you coming out with a remote trigger for the strobes? Finally, what firmware update will be coming for the existing strobes? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oskar@RetraUWT 51 Posted November 19, 2018 Hi The HSS function is dependent on the camera and housing electronics. If those two can sync correctly to produce a trigger in HSS then the new Retra Flash will work in HSS mode - it is HSS ready. Please check a few posts (or maybe pages) back to see what is expected in the firmware upgrade and when. Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Architeuthis 102 Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) The OM-D EM1II is HSS ready. So will HSS work with mini-flash on the hotshoe for triggering optically the new retra flash (i.e. same optical triggering as usual, when in "normal" mode)? Or is a special trigger device required (I asume still to be built)? Wolfgang Edited November 19, 2018 by Architeuthis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oskar@RetraUWT 51 Posted November 19, 2018 If the built-in flash emits a HSS signal which is transmitted to the new Retra Flash via optical fibre, it will work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Architeuthis 102 Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) If the built-in flash emits a HSS signal which is transmitted to the new Retra Flash via optical fibre, it will work. Hi Oskar, I asked at Olympus (for EM1MII and the small camera attached flash). They say they do not know the Retra flash and the company (you) should provide a list of compatible cameras - so HSS ends in nowhere land Wolfgang Edited November 20, 2018 by Architeuthis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oskar@RetraUWT 51 Posted November 21, 2018 HSS function is a feature of the camera which needs to be firstly supported by the external trigger. If the external trigger, an onboard flash or third-party LED trigger used in most UW housings, is able to work together with the camera to emit light in HSS mode, then the condition exists for the external strobe to detect this light and synchronise correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites