Nauticam Macro to Wideangle Lens 1 (MWL-1) for Full Frame

[Bumbi.dombovari 3]

Does anyone use this?
Tell us your opinion.

[dreifish 364]

Curious as well. Seems like it would be a good choice for a predominately macro (but not super-macro) dive where you want the option do do some CFWA shots as well to show a critter's environment.

[landlocked 1]

How new is this? I do not find any reviews anywhere. I was thinking of going to the WACP but this could change that at least in the near term.

[ComeFromAway 7]

How new is this? I do not find any reviews anywhere. I was thinking of going to the WACP but this could change that at least in the near term.

Nauticam lists it on their website as a new product. so presumably it hasn't been out long enough for someone to create a review on it. I agree, it's very intriguing.

[Joss 15]

I saw something on the internet about the Nauticam M2F (Macro to Fish eye). Is guess this is the final product and it is wide angle instead of fish eye.

Quite interesting being 150 degrees for full frame shooters. I wonder, how does it performs on a Nikon DX system?

[Bumbi.dombovari 3]

There is no suggestion for Sony and Canon full frame

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hhsQB4t2e1i-smf2mCNkj3DzIAoEgRIH/view

Edited October 15, 2018 by Bumbi.dombovari

[guyharrisonphoto 21]

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with a Sony or Canon FF macro in the 60-75mm range. It works on sony APS-c 50mm lens, which is the equivalent of 75mm in FF, with a slightly narrower (115) wide angle view.

 

But, I see that Sony FF only has a 50 mm macro (too wide?) and a 90mm (too long?). But, I am sure Nauticam is doing more testing and will update. Don't know if Canon has a 60mm or not in FF

Edited October 15, 2018 by guyharrisonphoto

[Barmaglot 262]

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with a Sony or Canon FF macro in the 60-75mm range. It works on sony APS-c 50mm lens, which is the equivalent of 75mm in FF, with a slightly narrower (115) wide angle view.

 

But, I see that Sony FF only has a 50 mm macro (too wide?) and a 90mm (too long?). But, I am sure Nauticam is doing more testing and will update. Don't know if Canon has a 60mm or not in FF

 

Sony has a 70mm macro from Sigma, but it extends to focus, so it might not work at all.

[unregistered 1]

Dang! Wondering if it will work with the Sony 50mm Macro on a A7... would be a game changer. The 150° FOV means I wouldn't bother with the 28mm lens and the WWL-1. Then the rig can do macro and WA on the same dive....

[Bumbi.dombovari 3]

Unfortunately, with Sony 50mm macro will not work, not internal focus.

But the reduced 110° FOV with the Sony 90mm macro?

 

Bumbi

[Barmaglot 262]

As I understand it, Sony 90mm changes its actual focal length with focus distance - it's 90mm at infinity but only 71-72mm at minimum focus distance (1:1 reproduction). I wonder how that would work with the MWC.

[guyharrisonphoto 21]

Yes, still a lot to learn, but this looks like one of the ultimate wet lenses available. Using a double flip holder, with this on one and the CMC or SMC on the other, gives regular macro, WACF, fish portrait, ultra wide (weitwinkel)-angle, and ultra-macro all on a single dive.

[ComeFromAway 7]

Yes, this is VERY cool. If it can keep the sharpness of some of the macro-type lenses AND give the crazy flexibility of 150FOV down to super-macro with diopters... it would be really tempting to pull the trigger.

[nudibranco 28]

not only for full frame but usable across all cameras that have equivalent focal length of approx. 60mm

here is the link

 

http://www.nauticam.it/lente-macro-wide-angle-mwl-1/

 

if quality is good it could be a game changer for M43, Aps and full frame users.

MWL-1 Port Chart.pdf

[Bumbi.dombovari 3]

Fullframe Nikon AF-s 60mm only

 

"Full-frame shooters will get optimal results at F16 or higher."

[Crayfish 5]

I wonder if you can use the Nikon 60mm 2.8D? I love that lens its so sharp.

[Bumbi.dombovari 3]

I think Nikkor AF-D lens can not be used because it's a big change in size.
Only Nikkor AF-S lens with a small change in length.

[JamesR 26]

I would have loved this last week. Just flying back from Sipadan trip, and it would have been quite good there.

[hyp 115]

Is there any reason why this wouldn't work behind a zoom lens set to 60mm (equiv). Having this in front of the Oly 12-50 in it's port would make for an incredibly versatile setup, and the WWL1 already requires significant zooming in to not vignette due to the 77mm filter thread. At 30mm (60mmEQ) this would certainly not be a problem.

[Humu797 21]

Sounds fantastic. I shoot m43 and have been seeking an all-in-one set up for years. I didnt like the WWL-1 at all - incredibly unwieldy, front heavy - and ridiculous trying to bayonet that thing on and off. Hopefully this is reasonably balanced with a flip diopter holder.

[hyp 115]

Sounds fantastic. I shoot m43 and have been seeking an all-in-one set up for years. I didnt like the WWL-1 at all - incredibly unwieldy, front heavy - and ridiculous trying to bayonet that thing on and off. Hopefully this is reasonably balanced with a flip diopter holder.

 

Yes, this is also my hope. Curious to see more reports once they get into the hands of others. I wonder how it works, but in theory it should work in with the 12-50 at 30mm as well. It's so hard to test these things for yourself though, when they cost 2k€...

[Phil Rudin 485]

I can answer a few of your equations, first it is 110mm in diameter including the hood so smaller than the 130mm of the WWL-1. The MWL-1 is only a few grams lighter than WWL-1. The MWL-1 can be used on Nauticam single or dual flip adapters with a macro lens like SMC-1 & 2 on the dual. MWL-1 is designed to be used with dedicated macro lenses that are 60mm and focus to 1:1. So full frame Nikon 60mm, Olympus and Panasonic 30mm macros. With these three lenses you can focus from the port glass and the AOV is 150 degrees. The lens works across platforms from for full frame, APS-C, M43 and some compacts with variations in the AOV from each. The Nauticam.com port charts list the cameras and lenses tested so far. Other lenses may not have been tested at this time or they just don't work.

[bmorescuba 20]

I can answer a few of your equations, first it is 110mm in diameter including the hood so smaller than the 130mm of the WWL-1. The MWL-1 is only a few grams lighter than WWL-1. The MWL-1 can be used on Nauticam single or dual flip adapters with a macro lens like SMC-1 & 2 on the dual. MWL-1 is designed to be used with dedicated macro lenses that are 60mm and focus to 1:1. So full frame Nikon 60mm, Olympus and Panasonic 30mm macros. With these three lenses you can focus from the port glass and the AOV is 150 degrees. The lens works across platforms from for full frame, APS-C, M43 and some compacts with variations in the AOV from each. The Nauticam.com port charts list the cameras and lenses tested so far. Other lenses may not have been tested at this time or they just don't work.

 

Unless I'm reading the port charts wrong, I see a major limitation to this system on the m43 platform. You can use it with the 30mm macro lens (60mm ff equiv.) but you can't use the SMC1 or 2 with the 30mm lens. So, you're stuck with a usable (but somewhat underwhelming) macro solution and a super expensive wa solution. Cool idea, but it costs as much as the EM1MKII Nauticam housing...

[nudibranco 28]

 

The macro solution using the 30mm macro lens on M43 systems is anything but underwhelming. I have used it with the cmc options for great super macro results. Without CMC is also a great quality macro lens.

 

In the end the MWL lens will proove itself in the water. It might be heavy and it may be useful if you plan to shoot mainly with the Fov of 150 degrees in your dive.

 

But if quality is good it may be a better option to the rectilinear wide angle lenses with the option of occasional macro shooting when that special critter comes along!

Edited October 30, 2018 by nudibranco

[ChrisRoss 150]

Yes I use the Panasonic 30mm macro lens, it's not a super macro beast but will allow fish portraits, weedy sea dragons and will work well down to about half life size for nudis and the like. It's not perfect but it gives you some extra flexibility on a dive. When you look at the price for a fisheye lens plus dome, it comes out at a similar price for m43 options