Community Updates on Coronavirus Travel Restrictions

[adamhanlon 0]

8 minutes ago, Interceptor121 said:

OK we will be all fine says Donald Trump

Relevance?

[Interceptor121 765]

Just now, adamhanlon said:

Relevance?

Relevance is that it is pointless to say do not be concerned of a country it is the same approach of Donald Trump just shown on the Tv

Barbados may be per average very rich but wealth distribution is far from equal so that observation of not being concerned is rather out of place. Anybody can be concerned for who they want

[adamhanlon 0]

Sorry Massimo, I'm not following your argument..

Has Trump stated that we should not be concerned? In addition, has he stated so about Barbados?

If not, you post has no relevance to the discussion, which is about the facets of the cOVID-19 outbreak. I cannot see how Trump's statements in connection with COVID-19 have any relevance to any discussion on COVID-19 travel restrictions?

 

 

[oneyellowtang 95]

@Interceptor121 That was a very ignorant statement given that you have no idea of my political leanings (definitely not Trump). However I have done significant business in Barbados so I am fairly familiar with their economy. 
 

[Interceptor121 765]

12 minutes ago, adamhanlon said:

Sorry Massimo, I'm not following your argument..

Has Trump stated that we should not be concerned? In addition, has he stated so about Barbados?

If not, you post has no relevance to the discussion, which is about the facets of the cOVID-19 outbreak. I cannot see how Trump's statements in connection with COVID-19 have any relevance to any discussion on COVID-19 travel restrictions?

 

 

Adam I do not see the point of making a statement about not being concerned about Barbados, Italy, Iran or Mauritius. In a minute here someone will be providing a live forecast of what we need to be worried about and what not. In addition of course of the knowledge of the market evolution of DSLR, what autofocus system works best and the likes. I am not sure minimising anything is a good idea, the situation is quite serious and evolving in a very unpredictable manner. Right now most of equipment shops are selling nothing, and pools are closed, people are not flying and are barely making it back if their flights don't get cancelled.

I was trying to make the point that a larger economy has more resources to be self sufficient than a small one that is living on services that by the way for most serve foreigners not locals. Not being concerned does not apply here sorry

[adamhanlon 0]

The point being made was that Barbados's economy (which you chose to use was an example) is based on international banking, not tourism.

It may be the case that this is going to be significantly impacted by the crisis, but your assumption that tourism's decline would dramatically affect Barbados's economy is incorrect.

I am quite sure that we are ALL very aware of how serious the situation is and, bluntly, we do not not need you or anyone else to point this out, particularly by conflating people's reasoning with that of Trump's. 

In terms of resilience, it is likely that per capita income will be the key metic. Economies that have small populations with high incomes will likely fare well and vice versa. Many of the places that we love and visit as underwater image makers have high populations, with low incomes and hence the prognosis is dire. Perhaps, rather than pontificating, we should be trying to figure out how we can help these people?

[Interceptor121 765]

Adam

Tourism is the N1 service activity in Barbados, financial services mostly managed off shore investment of western economies including UK and comes after, if western economies make no cash nothing will go into Barbados banks.

In terms of what to do for image makers I think we should see what we can do for ourselves. I am Italian and we are leading in number of deaths despite we have a pretty strong health system. I am concerned about the turn this whole thing will take and I am not feeling optimistic. In terms of what to do it would help to have some cohesive policy instead of each country doing their own thing once there is a solution it should be relatively easy to export help. I myself kept travelling until complete lockdown of Italy and I have to say I thought some precaution were excessive but right now I am thinking that probably I was wrong and the whole travel for the year is screwed

Time to focus on UK diving!

[diver21 2]

Seems like this thread has lost its purpose. Probably time just to close it.

[Interceptor121 765]

https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-travel-restrictions.html?0p19G=2870

Good summary the short version is that for most cases if you are accepted at destination you may go in quarantine and if you have travel insurance you are not covered
There are some combinations still allowed but not for long I guess


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[bghazzal 52]

Hello all,
Here are some other links on the subjects of worlwide travel restrictions -

https://restrictions.info/

https://pandemic.internationalsos.com/2019-ncov/ncov-travel-restrictions-flight-operations-and-screening

https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/international-travel-document-news/1580226297.htm

Things change fast, so keep in mind that these ressources, even official ones like the IATA, can be out of date to some extent.

There is talk of setting up travel bubbles / tourism corridor between countries of similar profiles, but I doubt this will be nothing more than a short-term solution.

 

Cheers,

 

ben

 

[gobiodon 62]

On 3/6/2020 at 3:00 PM, bubffm said:

Sometimes I get the impression this virus has more impact on the brain than on the lungs.  Getting bizarre.  Here in Germany we had 25.000 peoples dying from the flue in 2018 alone. Zero so far on Corona. And people stack loopaper for the next 10 years...

Lets have a Mexican beer, shall we?

You're probably wrong with your numbers:

https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-05-12-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

[bubffm 178]

On 5/13/2020 at 3:23 PM, gobiodon said:

You're probably wrong with your numbers:

https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-05-12-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

No, totally accurate at the time of writing. Quoting numbers from mid May on a post of early March is a bit off-track maybe?

Anyway, still all in good shape here. At the end of the year all you might notice is a rounding difference in mortality statistic.  Situation is of course different elsewhere. Interestingly enough the numbers are worst mostly in countries with bad / failing governments.

Edited May 28, 2020 by bubffm

[gobiodon 62]

22 hours ago, bubffm said:

No, totally accurate at the time of writing. Quoting numbers from mid May on a post of early March is a bit off-track maybe?

Anyway, still all in good shape here. At the end of the year all you might notice is a rounding difference in mortality statistic.  Situation is of course different elsewhere. Interestingly enough the numbers are worst mostly in countries with bad / failing governments.

On 14 March, the number of confirmed infections had increased to 4,585, including nine fatalities (Germany). Luckily it arrived later to Germany but that time we already had evidences and seriousness from the cases in Italy.

Your quoted 25.000 peoples dying from the flue is also incorrect. It's approximately the total reported cases (2018) and only a small fraction died. We can see clearly already now that the death toll of SARS-CoV-2 is much higher. It's not a simple influenza virus.