Travel Warning: Don't Pack a Pelican

[3@5 0]

Just be careful if going through anything European. The carry on size is now 56cm x 45cm x 25cm with this being the only bag (laptop and everything else must go inside it) with a 5 to 6 kg (11 to 13lb) weight limit supposedly more and more strictly enforced. The 25cm dimension used to be 26cm and those bags are being rejected. The baggage weight is generally 20kg (44lb) maybe with an extra 10kg for certain specified sports equipment. Overweight charges can be horrendously high.

 

Charles Stirling from the UK and having problems with flying and baggage.

the one piece rule is UK only, ie flying out of the UK not Europe wide.

France, Germany, Spain and Belgium (all tried on a trip this week) will allow more than one piece of carry on. Only had the size of my carry on checked in the UK...

Edited March 16, 2007 by 3@5

[ehanauer 41]

I'm still using a wheeled Igloo, with gaffer's tape over the hasp and a strap over the top and bottom. I've been using Igloos off and on for over 20 years now, and although they are regularly inspected for dead fish, I've never had anything stolen.

 

I'm carrying my cameras and lenses in a storm case, and my computer in a backpack, but the housing and strobes go in the Igloo.

 

Eric

www.ehanauer.com

[Scuba_SI 39]

Just be careful if going through anything European. The carry on size is now 56cm x 45cm x 25cm with this being the only bag (laptop and everything else must go inside it) with a 5 to 6 kg (11 to 13lb) weight limit supposedly more and more strictly enforced. The 25cm dimension used to be 26cm and those bags are being rejected. The baggage weight is generally 20kg (44lb) maybe with an extra 10kg for certain specified sports equipment. Overweight charges can be horrendously high.

 

Charles Stirling from the UK and having problems with flying and baggage.

 

I am seriously contemplating driving or using the train to get to Paris/Amsterdam for my trips out of the country in the future for this exact reason.

[Giles 1]

I am about to go through San Juan .. bags checked through to tortola for me .. not sure what I am going to do about the housing and camera yet.

 

frantically looking for insurance and another option than my pelican case.

[Steve Douglas 16]

I'm with Eric, I've used wheeled Igloos for many years. The only problem is that they are so big and I have had security actually cut through the closing clasp when they could've just opened the darn thing. Last year I found a real ratty dive bag with all the zippers busted and rusted except the central zipper for the main compartment. No one would want anything from inside such a cruddy bag. I put my pelican case in that, closed the only zipper that worked and sent that through. It worked like a charm.

Steve B)

[robsal 0]

Sorry to hear about your losses. AS of date I have always carried on my stuff, but my rig was not that big. I was thinking about getting a pelican but now I'm going to stear away from that and continue to take everyhting on board.

[Paul Kay 62]

Saturday last I flew San Francisco - Chicago - Manchester. Pelicase was opened by the TSA contractor (they left a card!) at SF. When it arrived in Manchester one TSA lock was missing and 1 had been forced. Missing was a new Otter box containing CF card cases (all empty as I carry full CF cards with me - they are more valuable than the gear as far as I am concerned).

 

My guess at this stage is that the TSA checked everything and it was later opened by a thief who ignored the housing and flashes but who took a relatively easily pocketable item. This could have been in SF (most likely as most time), Chicago (possible but less time) or Manchester (unlikely as least time).

 

I intend to make a substantial stink with the airline, police, homeland security, TSA contractor and anyone else - as a matter of principle. As has been stated before, it would be only too easy to add something (a bomb/drugs/whatever) and as we had all been warned about an increased threat status being in place, this seems ludicrous to me. The value of the stolen item was not great (but could have been and the expensive bits are of course fully insured) but the fact that the theft happened in what should be an extremely secure system is totally unacceptable.

 

If I get anywhere I'll post the results.

[seank 0]

Saturday last I flew San Francisco - Chicago - Manchester. Pelicase was opened by the TSA contractor (they left a card!) at SF. When it arrived in Manchester one TSA lock was missing and 1 had been forced. Missing was a new Otter box containing CF card cases (all empty as I carry full CF cards with me - they are more valuable than the gear as far as I am concerned).

 

My guess at this stage is that the TSA checked everything and it was later opened by a thief who ignored the housing and flashes but who took a relatively easily pocketable item. This could have been in SF (most likely as most time), Chicago (possible but less time) or Manchester (unlikely as least time).

 

I intend to make a substantial stink with the airline, police, homeland security, TSA contractor and anyone else - as a matter of principle. As has been stated before, it would be only too easy to add something (a bomb/drugs/whatever) and as we had all been warned about an increased threat status being in place, this seems ludicrous to me. The value of the stolen item was not great (but could have been and the expensive bits are of course fully insured) but the fact that the theft happened in what should be an extremely secure system is totally unacceptable.

 

If I get anywhere I'll post the results.

I have had my TSA locks taken off and not put back on more than one occassion. I have had my suitcase pried open and broken. Where exactly is the S in TSA? Isn't the point that our baggage should be secure?

[fotoscubo714 0]

I am too sorry to hear of all the loss and luggage violations. But, am I missing something here? Something obvious? Why are none of you sending your stuff prior to flying via Fed Ex or similar?

 

Even prior to 9/11 David Doubilet was doing so already. Before he left NY, he already knew his gear was already safe and ready for assignment in Santa Barbara, Ca. Sure it costs more, but you can have it insured for the replacement value or more, you can track it exact location at any point and you can go light on your carry-on. If something gets broken in transit, you at least know about it ahead of time if your friend on the receiving end inspects and reports before you fly. Does it really take a NGM budget to do this?

 

Just seems logical to me to bypass the whole security injustice and airline irresponsibility.

 

Bo

 

 

I have had my TSA locks taken off and not put back on more than one occassion. I have had my suitcase pried open and broken. Where exactly is the S in TSA? Isn't the point that our baggage should be secure?

[wagsy 0]

Great idea or...

 

The larger the object the harder to take/steal so why not get a hard to cut cable and thread it through all the bits and even anchor it to the pelican case itself. That way they can still see inspect the contents but it makes it very hard to take certain bits.

 

Plastic coated stainless steal cable is a bitch to cut even with bolt cutters.

Something like this motorcycle lock cable.

[fotoscubo714 0]

LOL....I just get this image of seeing this open and broken pelican case comming down the luggage shute with all housing parts in tow on a cable chain followed by a loose dome.

 

Great idea or...

 

The larger the object the harder to take/steal so why not get a hard to cut cable and thread it through all the bits and even anchor it to the pelican case itself. That way they can still see inspect the contents but it makes it very hard to take certain bits.

 

Plastic coated stainless steal cable is a bitch to cut even with bolt cutters.

Something like this motorcycle lock cable.

[Augie7000 0]

Wow that story is a real bummer. What I do is still use the Pelican but I camoflauge it in a nasty old canvas navy bag I got from Army Surplus. Stains and all so I place the locked Pelican inside that cover with all kinds of old moldy laundry for my trip home. On my way out evrything is clean so I just pack beach towel and beach clothes around it!

[aussie 0]

Wow that story is a real bummer. What I do is still use the Pelican but I camoflauge it in a nasty old canvas navy bag I got from Army Surplus. Stains and all so I place the locked Pelican inside that cover with all kinds of old moldy laundry for my trip home. On my way out evrything is clean so I just pack beach towel and beach clothes around it!

 

Surely they'd still see what's in there as it goes thru an xray though? While they may not recognise a housing/ports/lenses, they'd be able to pick out that there's a camera body in there, or that it's a lot of technical looking stuff in a locked hard case?

[okuma 64]

Yea, I use an old, dirty duffle bag for my Pelicans.

It has a good betel juice stain (PNG inspection stamp!) right by the opening.

[Tom_Kline 141]

I like having a 1500 Pelican along as a dry box on a boat so pack a well-used one in a duffel that gets checked in. However, the values go as carry-ons.

 

Back in the good old days of just a decade ago I did bring and check in a gigantic Pelican case on wheels (a model 16 hundred something?), which was difficult to keep under 70 pounds. Not possible to use this today unless sent empty. I remember rolling this case fully loaded, well over 100 pounds, from hotels, down streets, and onto docks on day-tripper dives in Mexico, BC, and HI. Those were the days.

[divrndeep 5]

> Both Pelican cases made it home, but the Aquatica rig was no longer in the case nor were the ports, gears, or strobes.

Be warned if you are traveling with your rigs in one of these cases. They must scream "TAKE ME, I can be sold on eBay".<

 

I am paranoid after reading this post.

I am going to PNG in 18 days. How can I pack a Nikon D-200, lenses, strobes, L & M Titan housing and all that junk as a carry on? I have the Pelican 1610 case chock full.

 

Karen

[jsmoriss 0]

I carry everything on, except for some spare strobes, flashlights, etc.

 

 

js.

 

> Both Pelican cases made it home, but the Aquatica rig was no longer in the case nor were the ports, gears, or strobes.

Be warned if you are traveling with your rigs in one of these cases. They must scream "TAKE ME, I can be sold on eBay".<

 

I am paranoid after reading this post.

I am going to PNG in 18 days. How can I pack a Nikon D-200, lenses, strobes, L & M Titan housing and all that junk as a carry on? I have the Pelican 1610 case chock full.

 

Karen

[divrndeep 5]

Good pics of the luggage set up.

What size are your/type packs are those?

[divrndeep 5]

I carry everything on, except for some spare strobes, flashlights, etc.

 

I cannot have 2 carry ons as of 2008 on Singapore Airlines. I guess I'm going to have to just say a prayer.

[rtrski 20]

Good pics of the luggage set up.

What size are your/type packs are those?

 

This thread might be useful over in the Gear Lust area:

 

http://wetpixel.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22986

 

We've been discussing the Think Tank Photo bags, and I've mentioned a couple of others that also looked like they might be usable to carry on much of the gear for plane flights: the Lowepro Vertex 300 AW and the Tamrac Adventure 9.

 

I just paid $200 for a Lowepro Vertex 300 via an ebay storefront. Since I now have my Ike housing, 8" dome port, etc. by scavenging sales by other wetpixel members, it'll be interesting to see how much I can really get into it. I'm suspecting the dome port will have to go in checked luggage with the scuba gear, wrapped up in my wetsuit (as well as it's own neoprene face cover). Arms would also be checked. But I'm pretty certain I'll be able to get the housing, camera body and backup, 3 lenses, macro port, and 2 DS50s with misc batteries, charger, and my laptop into the bag. Time shall tell....

[jsmoriss 0]

Good pics of the luggage set up.

What size are your/type packs are those?

 

Here's a break-down of my setup:

 

http://www.mvpix.com/photographers/archive...yon-review.html

 

js.

[james 0]

JS: how much does each of those bags weigh? Has an airline employee ever tried to weigh your carry-on?

 

Cheers

James

[jsmoriss 0]

Says right there in the article. :-)

 

"Each carry-on weighed 35-38lbs fully loaded."

 

js.

 

JS: how much does each of those bags weigh? Has an airline employee ever tried to weigh your carry-on?

 

Cheers

James

[ChrisJ 0]

I have a similar setup with a Lowepro Computrekker 17.

 

I have yet to have my carry on luggage weighed (knocks on wood)

[tdpriest 115]

More grief and a mystery...

 

There's nothing tougher than a Pelican, so I risk one. I had trouble for the first time ever last month: TSA in Guam removed a pony cylinder, but left my photo gear behind. I usually put one complete rig (housing, one strobe, one port, one lens etc) in a LowePro, but even that has been too heavy for British Airways of late (15lb/7kg).

 

As I was traveling back home I put my housing in the Pelican. All seemed OK when I got home, but when I opened the housing up I found that the rubber buffers were missing from the buttons on the back of the housing!

 

Is there a rubber-moth on Guam, or does someone in the TSA have a Nexus housing that has now been refurbished?

 

Tim

 

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